Moulton vs Perkins, wats the verdict??

[lozzaman]

After hearin about the Perkins/ Moulton game bein abandoned, wat does every1 reccon should happen, bearing in mind that Moulton were 2-0 up after 70mins and Perkins had 10men???

[TUGAY]

From what i hear of the game it was only the actions of one player causing the game to be abandoned. It would surely be unfair to Moulton if the game was replayed and the best solution would be to take the same score and play the remainder of time with perkins having 10 men?

[lozzaman]

Thats what i thought, or just the 2-0 win awarded.

[carefree]

won't happen. it will be replayed as with so much time left on the clock it could have been possible for moulton getting a player or 2 sent off and perkins scoring 3 goals, might sound daft but in football anything can happen in 20-30 mins.

DEFO REPLAY!

[lozzaman]

Yes, but i dont think Perkins had a shot till that point, im sure the Moulton lads would be unhappy to say the least if it were a replay

[TUGAY]

Im sorry carefree but I do not agree with you. That would mean that in an important match the team that is not having the result go their way could bring on a player that doesn't wish to play football, hit the ref and force a replay! Like you say, anything can happen in football.

Also within the remaining time of play moulton could still have 2 sent off and perkins score 3, even with 10 men.

[Harbs]

Thats a scenario that will never happen no team would deliberately send a player on to get a match abandoned.
you're right that the moulton goal was not troubled but how many times have you seen a game where all it would take is two attacks to score two goals?
im definately not saying that it is the right thing to replay the game but it will be replayed.

[The Harrox]

A big bone of contention and I'm sure the outcome of the final decision will rumble on.

The decision will obviously set precidents as to future outcomes surely.

If the game is to be replayed, what is to stop something similar happening. It doesn't have to be a player coming on as a sub and doing something similar. What's to stop a club member or whoever coming on and doing this sort of thing? Very unlikely, I know but you never know!!!!!!

One player on that team causing the trouble / game to be abandoned. At the end of the day don't we all say it's a team game?????? If so, if your player causes a game to be abandoned then the team surely must suffer.

Result to stand would send out a clear message to any team offending in this way that this sort of thing will not be tolerated.

Play the last 20 minutes if the game at a later date? I guess you are saying with the same remaining 21 players. An option but can you guarantee when all 21 players are available???? Suspensions, injuries or transfers will have a big say in this.

A difficult one for the league committee to decide upon. I for one certainly dont envy them. Anything can happen in football so to look at facts of possession / chances / scorelines at the time is a slight irrelevance. Unless of course the score is say 4 or 5 nil then maybe you could allow the result to stand.

Also, now this has happened, surely there must be a rule introduced for such occasions where the offending team will automatically receive no points and the innocent team receive the win regardless of the score at the time.

Just some thoughts for you to be going on with.

[jon w]

what happened to cause the abandonement??

[The Harrox]

infringment on the referee

[carefree]

sorry tuguy but if u fancy a £1,000 bet ill have it with u on this 1. last season 1 of our games was abandond in the 88th with us winning.
out come?

A REPLAY!

its not unheard off i'm sure that a team with only 10 men who were 2 nil down with 25 mins (right spec?) still left 2 play went on 2 get a draw or even the win. (1 for u stato ianh!!)

far 2 much time still 2 run on the clock 4 the result 2 stand mucker

[spec]

Agree with you carefree, definite replay as that's the rules, don't agree with it at all and as Harrox says they should come up with a better solution to favour the innocent team but rules are rules. It's strange that nobody who was at the game has come on and offered an opinion as to what happened, whether it was provoked (not that it would be an excuse)
and at least 3 people who have posted an opinion were at that game.
Are you scared to say who it was ? do you keep quiet to sweep it under the carpet ? the whole point of this site is to discuss local football issues and they don't get more controversial than this, I wasn't at the game and I have heard so many different versions that I wouldn't want to offer an opinion. I will say as a manager though that I hope he gets treated a little bit better than Hookey did by the club when all this is sorted out and the dust has settled, whatever punishment he gets should be the end of it from a playing point of view but it shouldn't be carried on to affect his personal life as well.

[jon w]

Love your post Spec! sounds like a nasty incident, but still none the wiser!! I was at the infamous leverington / psl game, which resulted in a replay, so the precedent is already set for the outcome of the referee enforcing an abandonement of a game due to player/s behaviour.

[JNE]

Carefree, you hoping it replayed so as to perkins might get a result to help you out?

My personal opinion is that the game and the 3 points should be awarded to Moulton and the player punished accordingly, But league rules dictate otherwise!! Isn't this a bit different to last year with PSL vs Leverington as everyman and his dog got involved and with this being the actions of one individual only?

Feel sympathy for Al/Gino who are trying to build a decent side and club and this has again been tarnished by another individual.

Now I know the player well and he will be truly remorseful in his actions and I hope they take this into account. However it is True that a serious event has occured and so the committee have a tough decision as to what to do as not as clear cut as previous incident from what I hear and also player not at end of career like hookey was!!

Whatever the outcome I totally agree with spec that it should stay within the footballing circles and not get personal. Peopel watching with interest!!

[Spider Man]

Find myself agreeing with Spec which is a dangerous precedent. All the early posts are about whether game should be replayed and not condeming incident. Not seen 1 post asking if the ref is ok. Points to Moulton if posible and totally different to PSL v Leverington as Moulton completely innocent.

[Harbs]

I was at the game, keeping the bench warm, but it all happened while i was in the dressing room putting an extra layer on so i'm not prepared to say what happened because chances are i will get it wrong.
If i were in Moultons position i would want and expect the points.
however its not going to happen.

[jon w]

i take it the ref is okay as no one seems to have shown a great deal of concern for him, more concerned about protecting the player it seems!!

[No 3]

Played in the game for moulton and will feel very harshly treated if we don't get the points, I know there may be certain rules, but as has been said it was only the actions of one player and as a result we seem certain to suffer.

Why the game couldn't continue I dont really understand, as everyone would have been behind the ref, who would have sent out the correct message by not letting one players actions spoil a very good game.

We feel that an away win at Perkins would have been a very big result for us, as they are more than capable of beating anyone on their day.

One or two tackles has gone in but I'm sure both teams would agree it wasn't a bad tempered game in any way, competitve yes, but that's only natural. The player seemed to be getting a bit frustrated and the tackle that started the whole thing off wasn't the greatest, but after that he obviously just lost it for a few moments which is a shame as he is a very good player. At the end of the day we all make mistakes & I'm sure he doesn't need telling.

as someone suggested, could the rest of the game not be played with all teams / scores as they were when the incident happened? Not too difficult surely??

So we''ll wait and see but we're not holding our breath for a positive outcome from our point of view.

[spec]

That was my thought No3, why can't the game continue ? It's not nice getting a smack in the gob but it hardly puts you on the critical list does it and like you said everyone would have been behind the ref after the incident. Apparently he is new to the area as well so welcome to Peterborough ! He would have earnt massive respect for continuing and like number 3 said sent out a clear message that ref's won't be intimidated by this sort of thing.
Just heard that the player in question has been banned from the club already, nothing like a bit of support when you're down is there !!

[Harbs]

jon at the game there was a huge amount of concern shown for ref the people that have commented on here do not know if the ref is ok or not so thats why they have not commented on it not to mention the fact nothing specific has been posted with regards to what happened so people dont even know what they are checking on.