pdfl to ucl

[carefree]

[carefree]

for many local youngsters, playing in the ucl is a great step forward, but you have to feel for psl as they have now had 3 top lads taken from their team this season alone by the same ucl club, this club also tried to take a 4th, so why have they only bled psl? why not any of the other top sides? as i can think of many pdfl players as good or even better. my hat is off to tommy, as clearly he has not dipped into his pocket to keep them.

[Tommy Trophy]

Given that I took 4 players from Blackstones to PNS at the start of last season, I can't really complain, though as I have said in previous posts, doing it in June is different to destroying our season as we go along and are in contention for the title. (will go top if we beat Coates next week, but with Kevin & Foggy suspended we are going to be a bit light on the ground to put it mildly!) Does make you wonder though what the point of Deeping having a reserve side in the Peterborough League is??

I do think that the players should have waited until the summer and personally I am not sure Matt is ready to step into UCL Prem mid-season but we shall see - would have been nice to think they would have shown a bit more loyalty to Chris. Might not be the end of it yet, though at least Luke Watkins has resisted approach from Blackstones at this point.

Throwing money at these guys would have been the easy option, but wriong (and against rules!) but it has got me thinking as to how we can protect ourselves next year when hopefully pushing for promotion. Players come and go and that is part of life, and we probably should get better at doing our own raiding!

[carefree]

ucl to ucl aint the same tommy, get your point about deeping reserves, gives a clear message to them that their 1st team aint interested in them, will all the ex psl lads also sign for deeping res too? psl can still make the grade next season without paying as pinchbeck should be gone and im sure you can get a top 2 finish, even a top 6 might get you in as the ucl need new teams with the required standards, all you need to do is ring jeremy and ask. very few managers can keep players loyal when it comes to money, its also down to man managing away from the pitch.

[alex]

The powers that be need to change the rules regarding players playing or moving between different levels. For me it should be one player one club. Give each player a registration number that stays with them. If a higher league club want that player then an official approach would have to be made, with the same guide lines as inter league transfers i.e only one a month to any club, and the player then becomes only eligible for his new club.
If the player then moves on it would make it a bigger decision to make. Does he risk not making the grade mid way through a season or does he stay and give it a go pre season and see if he can make the grade.

[Harbs]

Don't Pinchbeck only get promoted if they win the league? In which case they will have to try and win the league again next year as they are going to be concentrating on the cup

Tommy, do your club get approached for these players or was it direct to the players and they left?

[carefree]

when deeping went up to the ucl they finished 2, its deffo 1st or 2nd and your in if the ground you play at meets the required gradings, huntingdon got accepted into the ucl a number of years back and i believe they werent even in the top cambs league (this may have changed). but as things are at the moment the fa seem to be more bothered about ground standards and football leagues will swap a quality team for the required standard ground.(again i may be wrong). standard fa rulings mean every club must put 7 days in no matter what the league they play in, im not sure if it then goes to 28 days if you want another player from the same club if the 2 teams play in different leagues i have had players taken by deeping in the past and they have always approached club and players in line with these rulings.

[Tommy Trophy]

Harbs Deeping have done all 3 signings by the book, though as with all transfers I wouldn't know what conversations took place before the approach was made.

Listen Sh** happens and we have to get over it and move on.

Pinchbeck would have to finish top 2 and can even come 3rd and get promoted if the top 2 can't go up and the League supports it.

Given that the Peterborough League has shown clear determination to remain in the pyramid, you would have to expect them to give their clear consent if Pinchbeck did finish 3rd to demonstrate support for clubs seeking promotion, though it looks more likely Pinchbeck will come top 2 anyway and good luck to them.

Gord only knows what will happen next season. Whilst there has been a lot of focus on step 5, even the FA have parked any discussions over step 6 so who knows if the goalposts will shift next year.

Alex I know it is a totally separate point but agree with you 100%. Every player should register individually with the FA and have their own unique registration number that needs to be included on the signing on form. You can only register with 1 Saturday club and League registrations should link into a central database that would flag if there was a problem with a registration attempt.(i.e owes some Sunday morning club money!). Would not be that expensive to set up (FA just saved £6 million a year) and solve any problem in an instant. Probably 1 of my better ideas (not a high bar I know!) and therefore has no chance of ever happening

[ces]

I think adult players registering directly with the FA is already in the pipeline via the FA Player Pass scheme, introduced in September 2011. This scheme is optional for players to join this season, but from what I read it will be compulsory for every footballer 16 and over to register through this scheme from the 2012-13 season onward. See https://playerpass.thefa.com/ for more details.

[Back of the sofa]

The Player Pass thing is nothing more than the FA forcing mass marketing crap on everyone, they will hold a huge database and exploit it for marketing purporses at every given oppertunity, it's a good idea but run by those idiots it wont work and will annoy the crap out of everyone forced into using it, can you imagine trying to sign someone who doesnt use a computer and hasnt got a clue about registering for this, or refuses too for whatever reason? managers jobs just got a lot harder I think!

Tommy, like you say, you poach players yourself and it's good to hear you dont hold a grudge when others do it back. be an interesting title this year and next.

[ces]

Very true Sean, just another bit of red tape & headache forced upon grassroots clubs by the FA

[Number 5]

All very interesting and I know that various managers on here have expressed their views and I agree with all of them. I have never advised a player not to go higher and would never stop them if they deem it right, as you should play as high as you can and I know that I have spoken to all the young players at PSL before they moved on as they asked my advice (which was nice). I will not speak individually about them but they all have their reasons and from what I can tell none of them are motivated by money, more the desire to prove themselves at a higher level which is a great attitude to have and they will be a credit to Deeping as they all have great potential to play at that level if not higher!

I agree the timing is not good and also that we would have been the team to beat in the league if we had kept them and that includes Pinchbeck. Good luck to them and we must move forward as a team and this week will be extremely challenging but you will hear no excuses from me/us on anything as this is part of being a successful team although it is tough on Chris/Malc who are top blokes and have done a good job in getting us this far!

Next year will be a challenge Tommy and we must be prepared as a club and a team to challenge as you wish, just not sure how we do it!?